Heheh. Don't feel too bad Rich. I just did the same thing a couple of weeks ago! Everybody who has seen the guitar
in-process thinks it looks great. I just thank them graciously and
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I figure I won't make that mistake again...
-Mark
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| Author: | rich altieri [ Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:22 pm ] |
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I am so freakin mad at myself. Just realized I installed the tail end graft inlay upside down so the narrow end is near the top. I guess there is no law that says it needs to go the other way but darn it - I hate when that happens. Considering leaving it alone, going to a design that is not tapered and re-doing it, or creating a larger wedge with the bottom being wider than usal. What would you do? |
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| Author: | Brock Poling [ Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:32 pm ] |
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leave it alone.... been there... done that. It looked fine. Nobody ever noticed but me (and other guitar builders). |
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| Author: | BlueSpirit [ Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:32 pm ] |
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Rich, What does it look like? And what does the back laminants look like? Got any pics? IMHO upside down can be made to look great, as long as it flows with the back. |
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| Author: | JJ Donohue [ Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:53 pm ] |
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Rich...you planned it that way, right? That's your story and you should stick to it! |
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| Author: | Don Williams [ Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:55 pm ] |
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You mean it's supposedto be the other way around????? D'Oh! |
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| Author: | rich altieri [ Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:52 pm ] |
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YOu guys know how to make someone who has goofed really feel good about it (ha ha). I will shoot some pics tonight and post them. Just finished gluing up the body so will get to see how it looks. I was fretting about it some more this morning and thinkinig like Brock. No none would ever know except me and other builders - but every time I see it now, it hits me - I think "you idiot, how could you have made such a basic mistake?" |
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| Author: | Mark Tripp [ Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:02 am ] |
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Heheh. Don't feel too bad Rich. I just did the same thing a couple of weeks ago! Everybody who has seen the guitar in-process thinks it looks great. I just thank them graciously and .
I figure I won't make that mistake again... -Mark |
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| Author: | Robbie O'Brien [ Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:03 am ] |
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I have been doing that for years and still haven't decide which way I like it. |
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| Author: | Arnt Rian [ Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:36 am ] |
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I don't understand the rationale for the wedge shaped end graft (other than tradition). I usually use the same dimension and materials as the back strip as I think it gives a more continuous appearance. It bypasses the problem discussed in this thread as well! |
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| Author: | Brock Poling [ Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:39 am ] |
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[QUOTE=Arnt] I don't understand the rationale for the wedge shaped end graft (other than tradition). [/QUOTE] I think it is just really easy to make a piece that fits really tight and works with virtually any purfling scheme. My guess is some wiz at a production facility somewhere (Martin?) got this idea as he looked at a big stack of bodies that needed end grafts. Just a guess... but I would lay odds on it.... |
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| Author: | Arnt Rian [ Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:58 am ] |
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I suppose that could be true. However, it should not be more difficult to install than the backstrip which most people inlay between the plates after they are joined. Of course, most people may just like them better, and I won't argue with that. |
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| Author: | tippie53 [ Wed Dec 21, 2005 1:00 am ] |
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The Luthier police will never arrest you for that. They have bigger fish to fry. john hall |
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| Author: | Tim McKnight [ Wed Dec 21, 2005 1:01 am ] |
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If it bugs you that much ... you could always re-rout half of it and turn it into a BOW tie and start a new trend ;) |
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| Author: | arvey [ Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:47 am ] |
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I saw a bow tie once. It looked really sharp |
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| Author: | Tim Hammett [ Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:16 pm ] |
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Inlay something on each side of the now narrow upper part to give the illusion of the taper going the other way. It could look like it was planned that way. Larry Robinson says he got into inlaying to cover an "oops". |
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| Author: | jfrench [ Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:39 pm ] |
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I think the way you're "supposed" to do it looks upside down. Why would the wider part be for the top? The wider part of everything else in life is toward the back.... |
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| Author: | Colin S [ Wed Dec 21, 2005 9:19 pm ] |
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[QUOTE=rich altieri] I am so freakin mad at myself. Just realized I installed the tail end graft inlay upside down so the narrow end is near the top. [/QUOTE] Who says it's upside down? It's your guitar. It's a design feature, make it your signature on every guitar you build. This is a custom one off instrument. Joshua is right it should be wider at the base logically. Colin |
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| Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:22 am ] |
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Like Brock said been ther done that  Infact for two years I did all mine that way so I could tell prospective clients that it was a design feature 
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| Author: | csullivan [ Thu Dec 22, 2005 7:17 am ] |
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I've never done a tapered end graft. I always make them parallel. I just never was crazy about the tapered look. Since it's only a decorative element, who cares which way the taper goes? As someone else said, add some small inlay elements to balance it and people will ooh and aah over the added bling. Have fun with it. Craig |
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| Author: | Alan Carruth [ Thu Dec 22, 2005 11:34 am ] |
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One 'use' of a tapered graft is to hide it when you don't quite get the centerlines on the top and back to line up. If you use a straight graft it will have to be at an angle to match both centerlines, and that shows on the end. A tapered graft will disguise that problem, if you should ever do it, not that I ever have..... ;) |
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